Not the Satanists! Anything But the Satanists!
by bdhesse
Why are the evil cultists in movies always satanists? The satanic panic was 20 years ago people! It’s time to stop pretending that satanists are actually a threat. After all, it’s not satanist cults that have been killing people. Every time we hear about a cult killing people it is a Christian cult. So why are there no horror movies about Christian cultists murdering people? I mean, we have documentaries about it, but even recent horror movies choose to demonize satanists.
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Whoa, whoa, hold the phone. If a cult calls themselves “Christian” and murders some people, then they aren’t Christian, and will be shunned by all the people that are Christians! “Christian” is the definition of my life you’re talking about here! Everyone who gets mad at me and replies in hate mail: I have a response for every single one of you.
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That’s a no true Scotsman fallacy. Christians can and have committed murder. You may not want them to be Christian, but that does not change the sincerity of their belief.
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Yes, but they also have to be claimed by the Father. Anyone can claim they’re a Christian. Just like anyone can claim they’re YOUR son or daughter. But unless you claim them back, the only leg they have to stand on is their word. But words sometimes lie. That’s why Christians do not continually live in sin, otherwise their claim is false. Granted, if a Christian murders, that’s a sin, and God forgives sin, but 1. God’s forgiveness is not a ticket to keep sinning. 2. It’s not a ticket because if you truly are a Christian you will be regenerated by Jesus Christ, so that you will become more like Him every day, so that you will find it easier and easier to not sin. If a “Christian” is living in continual sin that is obviously not happening. Jesus says in Matthew 7:23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'”
Even giving big donations to the hospital or casting out demons in Jesus’ name doesn’t make anyone a Christian. The Father and Christ has to claim them back. Yes, there are Christians who have committed murder before they were Christians, that is not a problem. Romans 6:1-4 says “What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? We were buried therefore with Him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in the newness of life.”
Verses 10-14 say “For the death he died he died to sin, once and for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So also you must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments of righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.”
I have more Bible verses, and if you don’t understand what these verses mean, I can explain, because they’re not typically used to argue because they talk of baptism and death and life in Christ, and most people don’t want to stop and explain that but I will if you want. 🙂 Anyway, the point is, if you are really and truly under Christ, you won’t be mass murdering anyone, and the people who just make a mouth claim to Christ without surrendering their life to Him will find themselves rejected by Him! Yes, they can have committed murder in their past, but they will do it NO MORE because they have been made dead to their sins but alive in Christ.
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How do you know they were never “claimed” by your god? How do you even know that your god claimed you? How do you know that you didn’t merely claim yourself for your god?
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Because He sent the holy spirit to me and transformed my life, something I cannot do on my own at all. I have stuff to do at the moment so I can’t sit and chat, but let’s say this: I know God claims me because I have seen so many times His hand in my life, bringing me back to Him when I want to do something stupid. This is not a joke. If God did not have his hand on me I would literally be dead right now in a hiking accident. But, no, He has protected me. There are some people you just can’t tell until God judges in the end, whether or not they have been claimed by the Father. That’s the scary part. There’s no do-overs.
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Of course, anyone willing to do so can transform their own life – in fact it’s the only kind of transformation possible; that means anything, or has any guaranteed lasting effects. It’s simply called self-empowerment. The truly scary part, for me, is remembering those days when I thought as you do. To think I was “this close” to giving up reasoning for myself and letting “faith” dictate whatever into my mind. Want to know a “secret”? I discovered while “in the faith” that compassion was neither exhibited nor wanted. Lot’s of love talk, but no compassion. A lot of emotion but no real sorrow and no real joy – just talk. That discovery was my ticket out of the mind prison.
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If anyone can transform their own lives then why is our world so evil and hateful? Why do people go around shooting schools up? If they can only transform themselves as easily as you seem to think, then there shouldn’t be much of a problem, should there? No one should be on drugs, since it’s so ‘easy’ to go off of them as you say, because they can transform their lives. As for your self-empowerment theory, ‘this close’ to what? As for giving up reasoning, you gave that up when you rejected God. And if I am just ‘talking’ as you say, then there is no reason to argue with me, is there? Why do you think so many people think that religion is a prison, including you? Because you cannot escape from the reality of it? Even now you’re arguing with me just like bdhesse because you don’t want to face the fact that the reality of God is here.
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Whoa… I’m not arguing with you – we’re not a couple of drunks in a pub. I’m expressing what I experienced, in and out of “the faith” as it were. There are as many different experiences of life as there are individuals. I’m not attempting to take yours away from you because personally it doesn’t matter to me what you believe: it’s an OK choice, as long as it does not impose itself negatively in my own life. Then I fight back, understood? To your question, why don’t more people transform through self-empowerment? Because they are caught in a Matrix of disinformation and brainwash, basically expressing its power through religion, the state and money. People prefer “believing” to forming their own opinions about life – it’s easier, even if it leads to disaster time after time. Take your religion, or your god. If you read the bible, which is purportedly god’s own auto-biography, doesn’t it make you wonder at how often god guesses wrong? Adam and Eve in perfect bliss, but they rebel. Couldn’t god have figured that one out? Why tempt them with “trees of good and evil, and life” and deny them access to them? Psychopathy, pure and simple. The “righteous” Lot and family are chosen to perpetuate the human race after the “cleansing” flood, and what happens then? The chosen nation, Israel to rule over the whole earth? Moving into CE or AD times, Christianity spreads terror and bloodshed over the earth in the wake of Western empires. Millions are tortured, killed and dispossessed. The planet itself is full of natural pitfalls in which millions have died of terrible deaths. And god has the gall to call his creation “good”? Maybe he should have waited until now before he made his pronouncement, unless “good” has a different meaning to a psychopathic “all powerful” deity? Good is when millions are slaughtered? When blood sacrifice runs rampant as in the dedication of Solomon’s temple? When a young woman becomes a blood sacrifice, as in the case of Jephtah’s daughter slaughtered for Yahweh as a “gift” for having given Jephtah victory over the Ammonites? It goes on and on. The biblical account, and the historical track record of Christianity gives but one consistent loud verdict to god’s track record: he’s a more heartless psychopath than were the Nazis at their worst. Before you reply, and you probably will, know that I’ve had many discussions like this and they have only served to remind me how good it is to be where I find myself today and I want to thank you for the reminder. And you are quite right about one thing: there is no escaping the fact that the reality of god is here. It’s in all organized religions and what they do. The reality of god is in global injustice, racism, slavery (though now more subtly managed), misogyny, homophobia and war, war, war. Your god is a god of war, first and last: Alpha and Omega. How long man remains enslaved to god is how long he will “earn his living by the sweat of his brow and the earth will produce thorns and thistles for him” as this god promised, a promise he has not failed to keep, unlike that of a second coming and the inauguration of a golden age which believers are still hoping for. Take care, Naomi (good biblical name, that! I like the story of Ruth, as an allegory.)
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I apologize- since we’re not a couple of drunks in a pub, let me explain something. My past comments to you were based off the assumption that I knew where your experience and Bible knowledge is coming from- a normal, God-honoring Christian church. I was thinking about your ‘so close to the faith’ comment, and it suddenly dawned on me that this is not the case at all. Hear me out. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you have seen and possibly come from what’s known as a ‘Charismatic Christian church’. Your comments about rational logic also led me to this conclusion. In a Charismatic Christian church, the people there are basically psycho. They roll around on the floor, and babble nonsense and call it the tongues of angels, they are magically healed by stuff they touch and they get down on the floor and bark like dogs because they are ‘in the spirit’. This is directly against the Bible, even though they claim to be Christian. In fact, it’s no better than a cult, and I think this may be where bdhesse is coming from, not in a literal sense, but what made him/her joke about the Christians killing sinners. I’ll get right to the point- this is not Biblical, and not Christian AT ALL. Now understand me- I come from an actual Christian church where we preach, teach, and study the Bible and everything that it says. We do NOT roll around on the floor and we do NOT bark like dogs and all that. If you have experienced or seen a church that does things like that, then I understand why your view of Christianity is like it is. You just have to also understand that I also think that kind of thing is crazy, and while I do not necessarily take back my comments to you from before, I apologize for not understanding you better.
Now, since it seems that you are not coming back to argue, I will try to make sure you don’t have to, in the sense that I have seen your side, you have seen mine, that’s all well and good, let’s go home.
Let’s start with my view imposing negatively on your life, since you are obviously fighting back. Most (actually) Christian churches would tell me to stop right now because I am negatively imposing upon your life, and that is not a good evangelism trick. I am going to tell you right now, that I am not trying to score points in evangelism class, ok? This is about giving you, or really whoever is reading this, that hope is here for your life, in the form of Jesus Christ. Okay? So really what I’m saying is I have no apology for you for doing Christ’s work, so be offended if you will (even though it seems like you’re not and I commend you for that, and for being logical in your arguments instead of ‘religion is stupid’)
I guess I should take you through this in Biblical order. (Let it be noted here that it’s easier to understand if you are familiar with the stories, as it seems you are, yet you take many things out of context) First, you wonder how God has the ‘gall’ to call His creation ‘good’ when there is so much murder, pain and suffering. Well, must I remind you that you have taken that verse somewhat out of context. If you read Genesis 1, God creates everything ‘good’. No sin, no pain, everything is ‘good’. I have to point out that God called everything good while there was no sin and no pain. So the answer is that God called everything ‘good’ while it was good. You yourself said that Adam and Eve were living in perfect bliss. He was really just stating a fact. So there’s the answer to that question.
Leading out from that question, is your question about Adam and Eve and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. We will abbreviate that as The Tree. Now, you ask, why tempt them when everything was going great? And you also ask why God didn’t see that one coming. Well, the first answer is simple (and since you say you’ve had conversations like this before, you probably know this) : free will. Would God keep his creation captive to Himself or let them choose? Well, he let them choose. By denying them access He was giving a command that they could choose to keep or not. Adam was created in such a way that he represented the ENTIRE human race. So, literally, if any one of us was Adam (or Eve for that matter) we would have done the exact same thing. So, since God created Adam to represent the human race He obviously knew what was going to happen. Fact is, He knew everything He was going to do about it, all the way to Jesus Christ and beyond. Romans 5:19 says ‘For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.’ It says many were made sinners, because since Adam represented the entire human race, he lost the ability to not sin, not only for himself, but for the human race.
Also, I must add here that you have yet again taken the Bible out of context. God did NOT tempt Adam and Eve. Must I remind you of the serpent, who is the devil? Must I remind you of the beginning of Genesis where the serpent comes and tempts Eve? Not only that, the serpent told her lies about what would happen if she ate of it.
Now, you ask ‘why did God not just TAKE AWAY their free will and everything could be free and happy?’ Not in those exact words, perhaps, but I can just see it coming. Well, to put it simply, for His glory. I know, I know, you will now go back to the reality of God is global injustice. I’ll get to that. For now, the answer is, for His glory. To explain, let’s put it this way: You never really appreciate family until you lose one of your family members, right? We ought to appreciate our family, but we don’t really until one or all is stripped away from us. I really and truly know how that is. It’s the same with God. If we were still in the Garden of Eden, and everything was perfect, then we would just kind of be used to that and never truly see the beauty of that, because we were never shown an alternative. Sin is the alternative to God, and that’s why it exists, because then we will fully appreciate God and His beauty and majesty.
Okay, so now Adam and Eve have fallen, everything is horrible, they are cast out of the garden of Eden. Why did God create the stupid serpent? Well, this will take very long to explain if I go into detail, so I’ll gloss over it. The serpent, who is the devil, Satan, in a serpent form, was an angel. He had free will, just like Adam and Eve, and he decided it would be awesome to become God. So, he convinced one third of the other angels that he could be God, they tried to overthrow God, and God cast them all to earth. The Bible doesn’t say why Satan is a serpent in this moment, possibly because he wanted to be a serpent, because God didn’t actually curse Satan until later. Or, perhaps Satan possessed the serpent, because there are instances in the Bible where demons possessed animals.
Okay! Moving along! We will now take on your comment of ‘How long man remains enslaved to God is how long he will “earn his living by the sweat of his brow and the earth will produce thorns and thistles for him”‘ Unfortunately, this is also taken out of context. You don’t even have it in the right order of words. Like I said, we’re going in order of the events that happened, not in the order of your comments. So, Adam and Eve are cast out, and God curses not them first, but the serpent! In Genesis 3:14 it says: “The Lord God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this,
cursed are you above all livestock
and above all beasts of the field;
on your belly you shall go,
and dust you shall eat
all the days of your life.”
Whoopie, now the serpent is cursed to be a snake, and Satan will now roam the earth! But in verse 15, something strange goes on:”” I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and her offspring;
he shall crush your head,
and you shall bruise his heel.””
Now, what does that mean? The children of Adam and Eve will be at enmity with the children of the serpent? This is God’s message of hope, and the very first promise of Christ. Even though Adam and Eve were now in rebellion and at war with God, He would save them from Satan anyway. ‘He shall crush your head’ is referring to when Jesus would defeat death, which is Satan’s right hand… thing, and rise again from the grave. But, “You shall bruise His heel” is referring to the price Christ will have to pay to defeat death-pain. In fact, nails through His hands, feet, a crown of thorns, and much, much whipping with glass embedded in rope. This bodily torture was Satan’s work, who really, really wanted to be rid of Christ.
Okay, so moving on from there, now God curses Adam. He says in Genesis 3:17 “cursed is the ground because of you;
in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life;”
The ground is cursed because of man, not because God is just some hateful unjust dude. Adam broke the rules, he is paying. Not only that, but in Genesis 3:19: “By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread,” Guess what, Adam rebelled, and since he doesn’t want God to take care of him anymore, he is gonna have to work for his own food.
Okay, next, you say, “The “righteous” Lot and family are chosen to perpetuate the human race after the “cleansing” flood, and what happens then?”
Okay, really, I’m sorry to say this but you have totally gotten your Bible stories mixed up here. You have combined like three of them.
Okay, yes, cleansing flood, the context there is that in Genesis 4 the world got so godless and so bad, that God is finally going to wipe out the whole earth and pretty much start over. “Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight, and the earth was filled with violence. And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.” Genesis 6:11-12. Okay, let’s make a note right here that if God is actually unjust, then Noah (that was who found favor in God’s sight, for he walked with God) should have been wiped out with the rest of them, now shouldn’t he? But no. So God tells Noah to build an ark, Noah does, the flood comes, destroys everyone except Noah, and everything is great again. Not quite. God, in his mercy, let Shem, Ham, Japheth, and their wives stay aboard the ark for Noah’s sake. But Shem, Ham, and Japheth (especially Ham) don’t really walk with God the way Noah does. That was God’s plan. Even though they were sinners, God saved them. Okay, fast forward like 300 years and we have Abraham. He was chosen by God to be the father of Israel. Now, you say that Israel is the chosen nation to rule over the whole earth. Sorry, nowhere in the Bible does it say that. Which would explain why they aren’t ruling over the whole earth…
And Jepthah? Taken out of context again. Since the Mosaic law did not allow for human sacrafices to be made, Jepthah dedicated her in spiritual sacrifice to a life of solitude and serving God. In Judges 11:37, Jepthah’s daughter goes into the mountains to weep that she will never be married, because those in service to God in that way were not allowed to be.”So she said to her father, “Let this thing be done for me: leave me alone two months, that I may go up and down on the mountains and weep for my virginity, I and my companions.””
Okay, so now we’ve taken care of that, now you say that God is a God of all kinds of things, including “war war war”. I suppose you are drawing off of the times when God tells Israel to wipe nations off the face of the planet? Now we come to a question, is God being unjust when He judges? That is what God was doing when he told Israel to do that: judging. In the Old Testament, people were under the Mosaic law and Abramic covenant. That might take a long time to explain, but let’s put it simply: They had to make animal sacrifices to pay for their sins, and they had to follow a certain set of laws found in Leviticus in order to be saved. Now, because Christ has died and taken God’s wrath for our sins (we’ll get to that in a minute) we no longer have to make animal sacrifices in order to pay for our sins. So, in the Old Testament God judged nations sometimes immediately according to their sins, and in the New Testament, God is waiting until Christ comes back to judge the people of earth.
Okay, now about Christ’s death and return:
So, as mentioned before, Christ died to take the penalty for believer’s sins, and then rose again three days later as he prophesied (I can get you references from the Bible on that if you like) and completely defeated death, and then ascended into heaven to prepare a place for all those who believe in Him. Now, Jesus is the Son. Explaining the mystery of the Trinity is something else that will take awhile but I will if you want. Anyway, so since Adam lost his ability to not sin, and represented the ENTIRE human race, the entire human race has lost the ability to not sin. Christ didn’t just give that back, since Christ is also God, (I say again, I’ll explain it if you want) Christ is perfect, and when someone believes in Christ, He covers them with His righteousness. Then, when God judges, He doesn’t see the person, He sees Christ. And since Christ is perfectly righteous, that person gets to go to heaven. I say again, you don’t go to heaven because you’re a good person, you have to be perfectly righteous, and that is only through Christ. (bdhesse I’m talking to you now) It doesn’t matter what you are able to do or not do. It matters who you have interceding for you in front of God: yourself or Christ?
(Sha’Tara I’m talking to you again)
Okay, so now you are wondering about the return of Christ? Remember when I said the ‘He shall crush your head’ thing was a prophecy? Well, you know, a prophecy is a promise of something that will come to pass (and all the dudes that try to prophesy in this day and age are stupid because the Bible says that no more people will prophesy truly after the people in the Bible) and since it is a promise it will HAVE to come to pass. But God never says how long it will take. You know how long it took for that prophecy to be fulfilled? About 4,000 years. You know how long it’s been since Christ promised he would return? About 2,000 years. It seriously hasn’t been as long. You think that people were getting impatient about the prophecies of Christ? Especially after Isaiah! But no, they had to wait, and either believe or not, and that’s all you have to do, and I would prefer if this closes our argument. If you have a valid Bible-related question that you have done the RESEARCH on then I will happily answer it. If not, I bid you both good day, I spent three hours writing this reply. I am SO done. :O I’m looking at how much I wrote, if you made it to the end you impress me!!!!
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I do thank you for your effort – good job, if it didn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know, having passed through all major aspects of Christianity on the way to here. Since your god exists for you, let’s hope that he’s paying attention to your efforts and rewards you accordingly. Thank you again, and be well!
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You too, and thank you for making an effort to end this argument.
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For somebody who has no time, you sure spend a lot of it preaching. at no point did I make fun of you. I simply disagreed with you. Maybe try putting aside your persecution complex for a moment so we can actually have a conversation. At no point have you given me reason to believe your claims. You said that you couldn’t possibly have turned your own life around, but why should I believe nobody could do that on their own? My stepbrother didn’t need god to get over his meth addiction. He didn’t need god to be a good father to his daughter when her mother abandoned them. He did that. And my step-dad didn’t need god to save him when a storm caught him and his friend in the middle of a river and flipped their canoes. They were able to use their own knowledge and the skills they had learned get themselves out of the river. They saved themselves from drowning. I see no reason to believe you didn’t do the same while hiking. If you have evidence that isn’t anecdotal to prove otherwise, I’m willing to listen.But if you just want to preach and make baseless assertions, then I’ve heard it all before and found it wanting. If your god cares so much about my believing, then you’d think he could offer better evidence of his existence. And please don’t tell me that I’m in denial or just can’t see it or just need to believe. I’ve heard all that before too. They aren’t anymore convincing. I don’t believe in your god because I actually don’t believe in your god. And if your god thinks that makes me worthy of torture, then your god is not worth worshiping.
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Excellently put.
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Okay, read my comment to Sha’Tara. Spent three hours on it. If it doesn’t answer you then I’ll come back tomorrow.
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Okay, let’s put it in a different light. Anyone who is a true Christian will do stuff like this, arguing with people like you on social media. Why, you ask? Because I am ruining my image. Right? The person who says I am an “Ignostic” (and there’s no such thing, I think the person meant agnostic) will probably never recommend my blog to anyone. You will never recommend my blog to anyone. That’s bad for ME and MY personal interests. But it’s not about me. As I said, you can’t really tell, that it between the person and God. The person can tell, and of course God can tell, but no one else can really for certain tell if a person is a Christian. When a person becomes a Christian, they are cloaked in the righteousness of Jesus Christ. When the Father looks down upon me, or any Christian, He does not see me He sees Jesus. Isaiah 64:6 says that “All are righteous deeds are like filthy rags”.
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I guess the point of this is to give you fair warning that you will be judged by God. You are making fun of Christians because you know it’s true. I mean, honestly, you aren’t making fun of Mormons, no one makes fun of Mormons! Why? Maybe because they’re beliefs aren’t true. You aren’t making fun of the Buddhists, or the Atheists, you are trying to brush off the Christians. I have prayed for my heart to be broken because if you don’t repent, you will go to hell, and I am so sorry to say this to you. Get right with God, because there could be a car accident, plane crash, fire, heart attack, kidney failure, appendix burst, and you could go home to see God and I am warning you with an urgency that there are NO SECOND CHANCES. You will sit at your computer and come up with some snarky reply, save your breath, and some typing, because I want you to realize something. No matter how many replies, snarky comments, or just plain “Christians are dumb”, you will never escape from this fact of reality, that God exists, and He will judge. Everywhere you look, you will see Him, for “The Heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims His handiwork.” (Psalm 19:1)
This is reality. And this is also a fair warning. I am not the one you have to brush off anymore, you have to brush off the universe in order to escape from this fact of life.
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Because everyone hates God, to put it short and simple! Why the heck would I make myself a slave to God, huh? Not when I can control my own life! But, no, God claims me because I’m sitting here talking to you. I hate doing stuff like this, but honestly, I’m doing it because He told me to. I say again, who in the world goes around ruining their image like this? This isn’t good for me myself and I. This is not about me. I feel sick, because I know that I will never be on top of the blog list, when people tell me if I stopped telling people about God, I could be, but this isn’t about me. What do YOU live for? Think about it, after all your work, publishing a book, living a good life, good house, and all that, will it be worth something? Will the world miss you if you die? Guess what, no one is going to miss me, besides like, five people, but that doesn’t really matter, because where my worth lies is with Christ, not with people, so no matter what you say to me, my worth in Christ does not change. And that’s all that matters, because none of this that I work for on earth is going to Heaven, not my money, or my house, or my high status (if by a miracle I ever get one). So maybe you ought to rethink what you’re living for, and I only have the gut to say this to you because it’s God telling me to.
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Thanks to you guys, I’ve learned what an “ignostic” is (or at least thinks s/he is) and what a “no true Scotsman” fallacy is. Thanks! And now I know that I might be an ignostic myself, and I agree with your “NTSF” statement.
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The Prophesy and The Seventh Seal are both Christian horror movies although they are not really about cults.
However, the reason Christian cults are not used more in movies is because we are too familiar with Christianity to be frightened by it. Satanists are an easy target because we all know the stories of Satan as the opponent of the Christian God. Also, Satan has been re-envisioned in popular culture to be a fat red monster with horns and a tail, and anyone that worships something as seemingly silly as the popular idea of “The Devil” has to be pretty weIrd and scary.
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Well said. The media and movie makers love t0 play to ignorant common stereotypes; why be realistic when fantasy puts bums on seats in the cinema.
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Satanists don’t buy as many movie tickets as other real-life religions, and not many people are going to protest it, would be my guess. Same reason Russians used to be easy villains, but now that movies are released internationally, “villain countries” tend to be the ones that don’t impact the profits, like North Korea for Red Dawn, despite making no sense.
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Cabin in the Woods is another example of non-Satanists as bad guys. Still arguably cultists, but not satanists.
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Cuz most of the time Hollywood doesn’t try so much to be original? “What’s the villains’ motivation?” “Ummm they’re doing this cuz Satan. It made our last movie money.”
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Silent night, deadly night may not be Christian per se but killer Santa raised in a catholic convent and out to get sinners… Plus, every cult that kills is Christian? Sure, if you drop the love one another then they are definitely Christian.
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Now, that would be a movie! Christian cultists murdering “Sinners”. I like it 🙂
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Also, there’s a philosophical reason why satanists have been the bad guys, and Christians haven’t. It might change as our society does, but here it is. Now, this is a vast over generalization, but most people assume that even an evil Christian would only kill someone who was a ‘sinner’. Since most people don’t consider themselves sinners, they would assume they would be spared by a Christian killer.
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They are not a current threat. They just make for a a good evil villain in a movie. After all they worship the Big Bad so they must be doing a lot of horror and evil whatnots. It would be better if they were more creative with their cults. Dynamic but crazy leader… could go anywhere with that.
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Reblogged this on Books and More.
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Kevin Smith’s Red State is about a murderous Christian cult based on the Westboro Baptist Church.
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+1 on this. Michael Parks made an excellent cultist bad guy. On the lighter side of things, In Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, she escapes from a Christian doomsday cult.
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A lovely subversion can be found in “Hot Fuzz.” If you haven’t seen that film, I shan’t spoil it.
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